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Carol Dickinson
2018-06-18 18:21:12 UTC
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Are we still our there or have the trolls taken us over?

Haven't read too many lately.

Finished "The Wizard's Daughter" by Barbara Michaels (Elizabeth Peters) It was weird. Not really any mystery at all. It read like a gothic romance from the 60's. Orphaned young daughter of a "gentleman" who drank and gambled away his fortune and his property. Godmother sends her off the London to a rooming house for "young ladies of good family in financial distress" where they are directed to positions of companions or governesses. But she dreams of being a singing star in the theater and runs away, only to naturally run into big trouble since the theater she is accepted at expects their entertainers to become mistresses or even prostitutes for the clients. Escaping a horrid man with the help of a friend, she is directed to a man who whisks her off to the home of wealthy old lady who believes the orphan is psychic, the daughter of her old lover who had died many years before.

The only mystery is why the woman believes it, why she insists the girl hold seances in which (yes she really goes into trances) and why there is an urgent deadline. There are no clues for the reader to decipher. I kept expecting, since it was written by Michaels, that the mystery would develop. Nope. At the end, there is about a 2 sentence explanation of the minor mystery point. The old lady dies, and the man who brought the orphan to her, says he's in love with her. Typical gothic romance. Ick. Not worth you time as a mystery. Maybe it is if you are into gothic romance.

I also finished "The Perennial Killer" by Ann Ripley, the last of hers I had not read. It was darn good. I liked that is was not set in D.C. but in Colorado. I like the western characters much more than those of her D.C. home.
I got a little confused by the "long" drive to the ranches involved in the story only to find it was 6 miles. I mean "around here" my neighbors drive that just to get downtown. I don't go there.

This time Louise and her TV crew are doing a series on wilderness plants and filming in Colorado. Two ranches set in an area which is in controversy, developers against people trying to preserve open habitat for animals. Both these are owned by old time families. Besides the murder discovered early on there are a series of mysterious deaths indicated by the family graveyard. In the end they do end up all tied together along with other side mysteries having to do with land developers, a mysterious side story as Louise's CIA husband is nearby but cannot participate in their romantic escape as planned, and yet another mystery as her daughter Janie, also nearby doing some time as a camp counselor seems to have a new boyfriend there and who is he. So many different mysteries that don't necessarily link together.

The characters in this one are the best of any of her books. Loved them. And also the way she wrote about the area. I didn't realize until the notes at the end that was partly because she was writing about the place she actually lived. This would be my second favorite book of hers, only because I loved the whole weird plot of "Mulch" a bit more. But its a great read.

Before that I read Katherine Hall Page's "The Body in the Cast" in which Faith is hired as the caterer for a movie company filming a 20th century version of "The Scarlet Letter". Naturally somebody dies after eating Faith's bean soup, so she's got a business problem. And many of the townspeople are cast as extras, so when a 2nd body ends up dead in a way that indicates someone from her husband's congregation may be involved it gets more complicated. She managed a great number of characters interacting together very well. One of her better ones. And I didn't figure out "whodunnit". I love when the author baffles me. Page has been around long enough she does not fit in the cookie cutter cooking genre. Still this one is only for people who appreciate cozies and tolerate the cooking theme.

After that I read Evonovich's "Motor Mouth". I don't care for Stephanie Plum and don't read those, but this is a Barnaby. The 2nd one I read. It seems to be the 2nd in the series. I am not into NASCAR at all, which is the whole theme of this book, but it was a fun read. Alexandra has taken a position as a spotter for a NASCAR team. The mystery centers around suspected cheating on the track through some sort of technical means. Alex and Hooker end up pretty much alone and on the lam avoiding killers, but they have with them a Saint Bernard so not exactly easy to disappear what with Hooker also having a zillion fans. Wonderful cast of characters. Many twists and turns. Very funny.

And working through my huge backlog of Michael Jecks books, I read "Tolls of Death" which was out of sequence. Somehow I missed that it belonged between the pilgrimage and their arrival back home, so I knew the one that came after it already. Didn't interfere with the mystery, just with the personal life of Baldwin and Simon. In this one, on the way from the ship which brought them back to Britain and their homes, they end up in a cornish village overnight and of course a death occurs.

The coroner for this area is a new young appointee who really has no interest in the job which was foisted on him and so naturally Baldwin and Simon take an interest in getting the job done right, training the fellow and then there occurs more deaths. A very twisty turny plot as always. I love the way he writes. I missed in this one the wonderful passages on the countryside because they remained in the village, but that was offset by a much larger cast of characters than normal involving a lot of villagers, and a great many people up at the Castle. It also gave a new angle of understanding of how women, especially single women survived in that period of time.

Also just picked up "The Painted Queen" at the store. It on the cover "Elizabeth Peters and Joan Hess". I thought that was odd and flipped to the inside back cover only to read that Peters had died (I missed that) and Hess finished it and that Hess has died too. And I'd missed that. Darn. I read both of them faithfully.

So who is till out there besides the trolls?

Carol
Nyssa
2018-06-18 20:27:15 UTC
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Post by Carol Dickinson
Are we still our there or have the trolls taken us over?
Haven't read too many lately.
Finished "The Wizard's Daughter" by Barbara Michaels
(Elizabeth Peters) It was weird. Not really any mystery at
all. It read like a gothic romance from the 60's. Orphaned
young daughter of a "gentleman" who drank and gambled away
his fortune and his property. Godmother sends her off the
London to a rooming house for "young ladies of good family
in financial distress" where they are directed to
positions of companions or governesses. But she dreams of
being a singing star in the theater and runs away, only to
naturally run into big trouble since the theater she is
accepted at expects their entertainers to become
mistresses or even prostitutes for the clients. Escaping a
horrid man with the help of a friend, she is directed to a
man who whisks her off to the home of wealthy old lady who
believes the orphan is psychic, the daughter of her old
lover who had died many years before.
The only mystery is why the woman believes it, why she
insists the girl hold seances in which (yes she really
goes into trances) and why there is an urgent deadline.
There are no clues for the reader to decipher. I kept
expecting, since it was written by Michaels, that the
mystery would develop. Nope. At the end, there is about a
2 sentence explanation of the minor mystery point. The old
lady dies, and the man who brought the orphan to her, says
he's in love with her. Typical gothic romance. Ick. Not
worth you time as a mystery. Maybe it is if you are into
gothic romance.
I also finished "The Perennial Killer" by Ann Ripley, the
last of hers I had not read. It was darn good. I liked
that is was not set in D.C. but in Colorado. I like the
western characters much more than those of her D.C. home.
I got a little confused by the "long" drive to the ranches
involved in the story only to find it was 6 miles. I mean
"around here" my neighbors drive that just to get
downtown. I don't go there.
This time Louise and her TV crew are doing a series on
wilderness plants and filming in Colorado. Two ranches set
in an area which is in controversy, developers against
people trying to preserve open habitat for animals. Both
these are owned by old time families. Besides the murder
discovered early on there are a series of mysterious
deaths indicated by the family graveyard. In the end they
do end up all tied together along with other side
mysteries having to do with land developers, a mysterious
side story as Louise's CIA husband is nearby but cannot
participate in their romantic escape as planned, and yet
another mystery as her daughter Janie, also nearby doing
some time as a camp counselor seems to have a new
boyfriend there and who is he. So many different mysteries
that don't necessarily link together.
The characters in this one are the best of any of her
books. Loved them. And also the way she wrote about the
area. I didn't realize until the notes at the end that was
partly because she was writing about the place she
actually lived. This would be my second favorite book of
hers, only because I loved the whole weird plot of "Mulch"
a bit more. But its a great read.
Before that I read Katherine Hall Page's "The Body in the
Cast" in which Faith is hired as the caterer for a movie
company filming a 20th century version of "The Scarlet
Letter". Naturally somebody dies after eating Faith's bean
soup, so she's got a business problem. And many of the
townspeople are cast as extras, so when a 2nd body ends up
dead in a way that indicates someone from her husband's
congregation may be involved it gets more complicated. She
managed a great number of characters interacting together
very well. One of her better ones. And I didn't figure out
"whodunnit". I love when the author baffles me. Page has
been around long enough she does not fit in the cookie
cutter cooking genre. Still this one is only for people
who appreciate cozies and tolerate the cooking theme.
After that I read Evonovich's "Motor Mouth". I don't care
for Stephanie Plum and don't read those, but this is a
Barnaby. The 2nd one I read. It seems to be the 2nd in
the series. I am not into NASCAR at all, which is the
whole theme of this book, but it was a fun read. Alexandra
has taken a position as a spotter for a NASCAR team. The
mystery centers around suspected cheating on the track
through some sort of technical means. Alex and Hooker end
up pretty much alone and on the lam avoiding killers, but
they have with them a Saint Bernard so not exactly easy to
disappear what with Hooker also having a zillion fans.
Wonderful cast of characters. Many twists and turns. Very
funny.
And working through my huge backlog of Michael Jecks
books, I read "Tolls of Death" which was out of sequence.
Somehow I missed that it belonged between the pilgrimage
and their arrival back home, so I knew the one that came
after it already. Didn't interfere with the mystery, just
with the personal life of Baldwin and Simon. In this one,
on the way from the ship which brought them back to
Britain and their homes, they end up in a cornish village
overnight and of course a death occurs.
The coroner for this area is a new young appointee who
really has no interest in the job which was foisted on him
and so naturally Baldwin and Simon take an interest in
getting the job done right, training the fellow and then
there occurs more deaths. A very twisty turny plot as
always. I love the way he writes. I missed in this one the
wonderful passages on the countryside because they
remained in the village, but that was offset by a much
larger cast of characters than normal involving a lot of
villagers, and a great many people up at the Castle. It
also gave a new angle of understanding of how women,
especially single women survived in that period of time.
Also just picked up "The Painted Queen" at the store. It
on the cover "Elizabeth Peters and Joan Hess". I thought
that was odd and flipped to the inside back cover only to
read that Peters had died (I missed that) and Hess
finished it and that Hess has died too. And I'd missed
that. Darn. I read both of them faithfully.
So who is till out there besides the trolls?
Carol
ME!!!!!!!

Somewhere buried among the troll posts are my Recent Finishes
posts....FIVE parts. It had been so long since I had done any
posts, they got kinda long so I broke them up.

There were a some decent cozy and a not-cozy-but-fun
recommendation, so I hope you didn't miss them.

I finished "Medieval Underpants" a non-fiction about mistakes
in historical fiction novels and how to avoid them. Very
interesting! I knew much of it, but learned some new things
which is always good. Suzanne Alleyn is the author.

I'm 2/3rds finished with "Merit Badge Murder" which is
a hilarious book. Not quite a cozy since there are a few
f-bombs sprinkled in. A retired CIA operative in an Iowa
town keeps turning up bodies of top terrorists, drug
dealers, and so on. Absolutely over the top ridiculous,
but oh, so much fun. It's the first in the Merry Wrath
Mystery series.

So who else is still around and functional?

Nyssa, who wonders if the trolls chased the few remaining
regulars away or if it was her extra-long postings that
did 'em in
Mike Burke
2018-06-20 02:23:28 UTC
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Post by Nyssa
Post by Carol Dickinson
Are we still our there or have the trolls taken us over?
Haven't read too many lately.
Finished "The Wizard's Daughter" by Barbara Michaels
(Elizabeth Peters) It was weird. Not really any mystery at
all. It read like a gothic romance from the 60's. Orphaned
young daughter of a "gentleman" who drank and gambled away
his fortune and his property. Godmother sends her off the
London to a rooming house for "young ladies of good family
in financial distress" where they are directed to
positions of companions or governesses. But she dreams of
being a singing star in the theater and runs away, only to
naturally run into big trouble since the theater she is
accepted at expects their entertainers to become
mistresses or even prostitutes for the clients. Escaping a
horrid man with the help of a friend, she is directed to a
man who whisks her off to the home of wealthy old lady who
believes the orphan is psychic, the daughter of her old
lover who had died many years before.
The only mystery is why the woman believes it, why she
insists the girl hold seances in which (yes she really
goes into trances) and why there is an urgent deadline.
There are no clues for the reader to decipher. I kept
expecting, since it was written by Michaels, that the
mystery would develop. Nope. At the end, there is about a
2 sentence explanation of the minor mystery point. The old
lady dies, and the man who brought the orphan to her, says
he's in love with her. Typical gothic romance. Ick. Not
worth you time as a mystery. Maybe it is if you are into
gothic romance.
I also finished "The Perennial Killer" by Ann Ripley, the
last of hers I had not read. It was darn good. I liked
that is was not set in D.C. but in Colorado. I like the
western characters much more than those of her D.C. home.
I got a little confused by the "long" drive to the ranches
involved in the story only to find it was 6 miles. I mean
"around here" my neighbors drive that just to get
downtown. I don't go there.
This time Louise and her TV crew are doing a series on
wilderness plants and filming in Colorado. Two ranches set
in an area which is in controversy, developers against
people trying to preserve open habitat for animals. Both
these are owned by old time families. Besides the murder
discovered early on there are a series of mysterious
deaths indicated by the family graveyard. In the end they
do end up all tied together along with other side
mysteries having to do with land developers, a mysterious
side story as Louise's CIA husband is nearby but cannot
participate in their romantic escape as planned, and yet
another mystery as her daughter Janie, also nearby doing
some time as a camp counselor seems to have a new
boyfriend there and who is he. So many different mysteries
that don't necessarily link together.
The characters in this one are the best of any of her
books. Loved them. And also the way she wrote about the
area. I didn't realize until the notes at the end that was
partly because she was writing about the place she
actually lived. This would be my second favorite book of
hers, only because I loved the whole weird plot of "Mulch"
a bit more. But its a great read.
Before that I read Katherine Hall Page's "The Body in the
Cast" in which Faith is hired as the caterer for a movie
company filming a 20th century version of "The Scarlet
Letter". Naturally somebody dies after eating Faith's bean
soup, so she's got a business problem. And many of the
townspeople are cast as extras, so when a 2nd body ends up
dead in a way that indicates someone from her husband's
congregation may be involved it gets more complicated. She
managed a great number of characters interacting together
very well. One of her better ones. And I didn't figure out
"whodunnit". I love when the author baffles me. Page has
been around long enough she does not fit in the cookie
cutter cooking genre. Still this one is only for people
who appreciate cozies and tolerate the cooking theme.
After that I read Evonovich's "Motor Mouth". I don't care
for Stephanie Plum and don't read those, but this is a
Barnaby. The 2nd one I read. It seems to be the 2nd in
the series. I am not into NASCAR at all, which is the
whole theme of this book, but it was a fun read. Alexandra
has taken a position as a spotter for a NASCAR team. The
mystery centers around suspected cheating on the track
through some sort of technical means. Alex and Hooker end
up pretty much alone and on the lam avoiding killers, but
they have with them a Saint Bernard so not exactly easy to
disappear what with Hooker also having a zillion fans.
Wonderful cast of characters. Many twists and turns. Very
funny.
And working through my huge backlog of Michael Jecks
books, I read "Tolls of Death" which was out of sequence.
Somehow I missed that it belonged between the pilgrimage
and their arrival back home, so I knew the one that came
after it already. Didn't interfere with the mystery, just
with the personal life of Baldwin and Simon. In this one,
on the way from the ship which brought them back to
Britain and their homes, they end up in a cornish village
overnight and of course a death occurs.
The coroner for this area is a new young appointee who
really has no interest in the job which was foisted on him
and so naturally Baldwin and Simon take an interest in
getting the job done right, training the fellow and then
there occurs more deaths. A very twisty turny plot as
always. I love the way he writes. I missed in this one the
wonderful passages on the countryside because they
remained in the village, but that was offset by a much
larger cast of characters than normal involving a lot of
villagers, and a great many people up at the Castle. It
also gave a new angle of understanding of how women,
especially single women survived in that period of time.
Also just picked up "The Painted Queen" at the store. It
on the cover "Elizabeth Peters and Joan Hess". I thought
that was odd and flipped to the inside back cover only to
read that Peters had died (I missed that) and Hess
finished it and that Hess has died too. And I'd missed
that. Darn. I read both of them faithfully.
So who is till out there besides the trolls?
Carol
ME!!!!!!!
Somewhere buried among the troll posts are my Recent Finishes
posts....FIVE parts. It had been so long since I had done any
posts, they got kinda long so I broke them up.
There were a some decent cozy and a not-cozy-but-fun
recommendation, so I hope you didn't miss them.
I finished "Medieval Underpants" a non-fiction about mistakes
in historical fiction novels and how to avoid them. Very
interesting! I knew much of it, but learned some new things
which is always good. Suzanne Alleyn is the author.
I'm 2/3rds finished with "Merit Badge Murder" which is
a hilarious book. Not quite a cozy since there are a few
f-bombs sprinkled in. A retired CIA operative in an Iowa
town keeps turning up bodies of top terrorists, drug
dealers, and so on. Absolutely over the top ridiculous,
but oh, so much fun. It's the first in the Merry Wrath
Mystery series.
So who else is still around and functional?
Nyssa, who wonders if the trolls chased the few remaining
regulars away or if it was her extra-long postings that
did 'em in
I kill filed 'em right quickly.

I've just finished binge-reading Faith Martin's Murder series. Nice
wistful not-quite cosy stuff.

Awaiting delivery today of Anthony Beevor's book on the Arnhem
bridge-too-far battles. So it will be fewer mysteries for a while.

Mique

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James Nicoll
2018-06-20 03:03:37 UTC
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Odd: today's book, BANNERLESS, was also an SF mystery. Post apocalyptic
US, pair of investigators are dispatched to determine if a man died of
natural causes or if he was murdered.
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James Nicoll
2018-06-18 20:35:21 UTC
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Post by Carol Dickinson
Are we still our there or have the trolls taken us over?
Haven't read too many lately.
I am here. Just read the forth Murderbot story, Exit Strategy, and
the second Astrieant book, Point of Dreams. One SF, one F, both
mysteries of a sort.
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Francis A. Miniter
2018-06-18 22:09:38 UTC
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Post by James Nicoll
Post by Carol Dickinson
Are we still our there or have the trolls taken us over?
Haven't read too many lately.
I am here. Just read the forth Murderbot story, Exit Strategy, and
the second Astrieant book, Point of Dreams. One SF, one F, both
mysteries of a sort.
Trolls are always only a temporary nuisance. It is just too much work
to keep up for long.

Reading Peter Lovesey, Stagestruck, a Detective Superintendent Peter
Diamond Investigation. I have been enjoying this series.


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James Nicoll
2018-06-19 13:45:57 UTC
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Reading Peter Lovesey, Stagestruck, a Detective Superintendent Peter
Diamond Investigation. I have been enjoying this series.
Does that take place in a theatre? I work in one and I have to say it's
considerably less murdery than Simon Brett and Ngaio Marsh led me to
expect.
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Francis A. Miniter
2018-06-20 01:39:25 UTC
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Post by Francis A. Miniter
Reading Peter Lovesey, Stagestruck, a Detective Superintendent Peter
Diamond Investigation. I have been enjoying this series.
Does that take place in a theatre? I work in one and I have to say it's
considerably less murdery than Simon Brett and Ngaio Marsh led me to
expect.
Yes, the setting is the Theatre Royal in Bath. Lovesey in this series,
at least, gives the reader a tour of the interesting sites and history
of Bath, from the Roman Baths to Jane Austen.

While there is some theatre material in this novel, the extent pales by
comparison to Ngaio Marsh.


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Nancy Spera
2018-06-19 12:43:32 UTC
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Post by Carol Dickinson
Are we still our there or have the trolls taken us over?
Haven't read too many lately.
Before that I read Katherine Hall Page's "The Body in the Cast" in which Faith is hired as the caterer >for a movie company filming a 20th century version of "The Scarlet Letter". Naturally somebody dies after >eating Faith's bean soup, so she's got a business problem. And many of the townspeople are cast as extras, >so when a 2nd body ends up dead in a way that indicates someone from her husband's congregation may be >involved it gets more complicated. She managed a great number of characters interacting together very >well. One of her better ones. And I didn't figure out "whodunnit". I love when the author baffles me. >Page has been around long enough she does not fit in the cookie cutter cooking genre. Still this one is >only for people who appreciate cozies and tolerate the cooking theme.
I always enjoy her books. I have her latest "The Body in the Casket" on
my list to borrow from the library. Perhaps I should get it next.

Currently reading no. 17 in the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency series.
It's always fun to catch up with Precious.

Another recent read, though not a mystery was Jamie Ford's latest,
"Love and Other Consolations Prizes," the story of a young Chinese boy
given up by his mother and sent off to Seattle. Once in Seattle the
bounces back forth from the early 1900s Expo and the 60s World Fair
when he is in his late 60s. Much of the early story takes place in
the red light district and a brothel.
Post by Carol Dickinson
So who is till out there besides the trolls?
Carol
Me, Me!!

Nancy

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2018-06-19 16:50:03 UTC
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  Are we still our there or have the trolls taken us over?
Haven't read too many lately.
Before that I read Katherine Hall Page's "The Body in the Cast" in
which Faith is hired as the caterer  >for a movie company filming a
20th century version of "The Scarlet Letter". Naturally somebody dies
after >eating Faith's bean soup, so she's got a business problem. And
many of the townspeople are cast as extras, >so when a 2nd body ends
up dead in a way that indicates someone from her husband's
congregation may be >involved it gets more complicated. She managed a
great number of characters interacting together very >well. One of her
better ones. And I didn't figure out "whodunnit". I love when the
author baffles me.  >Page has been around long enough she does not fit
in the cookie cutter cooking genre. Still this one is >only for people
who appreciate cozies and tolerate the cooking theme.
I always enjoy her books.  I have her latest "The Body in the Casket" on
my list to borrow from the library.  Perhaps I should get it next.
Currently reading no. 17 in the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency series.
Oops, should have mentioned the title, "Precious and Grace: No. 1
Ladies' Detective Agency."
It's always fun to catch up with Precious.
Another recent read, though not a mystery was Jamie Ford's latest,
"Love and Other Consolations Prizes," the story of a young Chinese boy
given up by his mother and sent off to Seattle. Once in Seattle the
bounces back forth from the early 1900s Expo and the 60s World Fair
when he is in his late 60s.  Much of the early story takes place in
the red light district and a brothel.
So who is till out there besides the trolls?
Carol
Me, Me!!
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Francis A. Miniter
2018-06-20 01:47:23 UTC
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Post by Nancy Spera
  Are we still our there or have the trolls taken us over?
Haven't read too many lately.
Before that I read Katherine Hall Page's "The Body in the Cast" in
which Faith is hired as the caterer  >for a movie company filming a
20th century version of "The Scarlet Letter". Naturally somebody dies
after >eating Faith's bean soup, so she's got a business problem. And
many of the townspeople are cast as extras, >so when a 2nd body ends
up dead in a way that indicates someone from her husband's
congregation may be >involved it gets more complicated. She managed a
great number of characters interacting together very >well. One of
her better ones. And I didn't figure out "whodunnit". I love when the
author baffles me.  >Page has been around long enough she does not
fit in the cookie cutter cooking genre. Still this one is >only for
people who appreciate cozies and tolerate the cooking theme.
I always enjoy her books.  I have her latest "The Body in the Casket" on
my list to borrow from the library.  Perhaps I should get it next.
Currently reading no. 17 in the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency series.
Oops, should have mentioned the title, "Precious and Grace: No. 1
Ladies' Detective Agency."
It's always fun to catch up with Precious.
Another recent read, though not a mystery was Jamie Ford's latest,
"Love and Other Consolations Prizes," the story of a young Chinese boy
given up by his mother and sent off to Seattle. Once in Seattle the
bounces back forth from the early 1900s Expo and the 60s World Fair
when he is in his late 60s.  Much of the early story takes place in
the red light district and a brothel.
So who is till out there besides the trolls?
Carol
Me, Me!!
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