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A massive hole just opened up in Antarctica's ice and global warming marketing scientists can't explain it
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Coon Hounds
2017-10-22 05:09:28 UTC
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Thanks to its usefulness as an indicator of how badly humans are
messing up the Earth with global warming, scientists like to
keep a pretty close eye on the ice in Antarctica. Now, a massive
hole the size of Lake Superior has appeared many miles inland
from where the ice meets the ocean, and scientists have little
concrete explanation as to why it's there.

The hole, which is called a polynya, is incredibly puzzling
because of its odd behavior. This isn't the first time it's been
spotted, having appeared last year for a brief period as well,
and long before that it was detected back in the 1970s. However,
it disappeared for several decades before showing back up,
throwing a huge kink in many scientific explanations for its
existence.

"At that time, the scientific community had just launched the
first satellites that provided images of the sea-ice cover from
space," Dr Torge Martin of the GEOMAR Research Division explains
of its initial discovery many decades ago. "On-site measurements
in the Southern Ocean still require enormous efforts, so they
are quite limited."

The current best guess is that warmer salt water from deep under
the ice has managed to squeeze its way through the cold layer of
fresh water that typically insulates it, causing a warm patch
and ultimately melting the ice and forming a huge gap. That's a
fairly straightforward explanation, but it doesn't fully address
the odd timing of the hole, including its 40-year absence and
seemingly spontaneous rebirth.

As scientists continue to hone their climate models and perfect
their predictions, they're getting closer to being able to
accurately simulate the exact process at work, but a full
explanation may still be years away.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/10/12/massive-hole-just-
opened-up-in-antarcticas-ice-and-scientists-cant-explain-it.html
 
Chris F.A. Johnson
2017-11-07 23:49:51 UTC
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On 2017-10-22, Coon Hounds wrote:
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Post by Coon Hounds
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/10/12/massive-hole-just-
opened-up-in-antarcticas-ice-and-scientists-cant-explain-it.html
Is this available from a more reliable source than Fox News?
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Chris F.A. Johnson
Mike Burke
2017-11-08 13:35:57 UTC
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Post by Chris F.A. Johnson
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Post by Coon Hounds
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/10/12/massive-hole-just-
opened-up-in-antarcticas-ice-and-scientists-cant-explain-it.html
Is this available from a more reliable source than Fox News?
Try CNN, Chris. They're world famous for the reliability of their news.
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Mique
Carol Dickinson
2017-11-15 02:18:35 UTC
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Post by Chris F.A. Johnson
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Post by Coon Hounds
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/10/12/massive-hole-just-
opened-up-in-antarcticas-ice-and-scientists-cant-explain-it.html
Is this available from a more reliable source than Fox News?
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Chris F.A. Johnson
Some of us find Fox news the MOST reliable. Since they regularly invite both progressive liberals, conservatives, and libertarians to debate and each can provide evidence to support their positions. AND I have personally seen more than one commentator report that a story is reported but they could not yet source something, and even say on followup they found contrary evidence.

You don't see it often, because they usually want to verify before reporting. They usually say something like we contacted such and such source and have not yet heard back etc.

I don't see that on the other networks and I watch more than one.

I also live in a town where the only newspaper leans strongly liberal. And its reporting is so bad, they are going bankrupt. In fact any day could be their last edition. They are in court trying to broker a sale.

But I find when I dig into something usually the Fox reports tend to have the evidence that eventually turns out to be the correct version. And they are a couple days to weeks ahead of the so called mainstream news.

Also Fox in general is not as network a strong proponent of environmental "sky is falling" stories. For it to be reported on Fox should be an indication that one should take it seriously enough to investigate on your own.

Just sayin...

Carol

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