Do women really scream at the sight of a dead body?

[Fire Tiger]

Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?

Scott

[Pogonip]

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.

I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very
shrill noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish
these girls' parents did not allow it, either.

[Lauradog]

Post by Pogonip

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.
I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very
shrill noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish
these girls' parents did not allow it, either.

I'm not a screamer either, never have been able to. When startled, I
make a weird sort of "oook" sound. I can yell if I need to, but I've
never screamed. And I know what you mean about little girls screaming,
it's just an intolerable sound. I don't remember little girls doing
that when I was growing up.
Sue D.

[Spuddie]

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:36:48 -0500 having failed the Rorschach test,

Post by Lauradog
I'm not a screamer either, never have been able to.

Well, there's screamers and then there's....screamers. <waggles
eyebrows> Oops...that's probably not a direction we want to wander off
into. <g>

Post by Lauradog
Wen startled, I make a weird sort of "oook" sound.

OMG, you're The Librarian!!

Post by Lauradog
can yell if I need to, but I've
never screamed. And I know what you mean about little girls screaming,
it's just an intolerable sound. I don't remember little girls doing
that when I was growing up.
Sue D.

Kids scream--boys and girls. I don't know that they're screams of
terror or anything, just loud, boistrous screaching during the course
of play. It's probably normal, but is still terribly annoying. Ugh.

Cheryl
~~~Never ask a mortician to bring back a cold one.~~~

[greenbanks]

Post by Spuddie
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:36:48 -0500 having failed the Rorschach test,

Post by Lauradog
Wen startled, I make a weird sort of "oook" sound.

OMG, you're The Librarian!!
Cheryl

Hahahahahahaha!

[Crowfoot]

Post by Spuddie
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:36:48 -0500 having failed the Rorschach test,

Post by Lauradog
I'm not a screamer either, never have been able to.

Well, there's screamers and then there's....screamers. <waggles
eyebrows> Oops...that's probably not a direction we want to wander off
into. <g>

Post by Lauradog
Wen startled, I make a weird sort of "oook" sound.

OMG, you're The Librarian!!

*SNORFL*!!!

Suzy

[Mike Burke]

Post by Pogonip

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.
I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very
shrill noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish
these girls' parents did not allow it, either.

Some women really can and do scream. The most spine-chilling scream I
ever heard was from my sister when she came upon a big Brown snake
while she was hanging out the laundry one hot summer day on the farm.
The end of this piercing shreik coincided almost instantaneously with
the screen door of the back porch bouncing off the wall as she hit it
in full flight, frightening the bejasus out of the whole assembled
family as we were just finishing lunch. (The Australian Brown snake
is extremely deadly, probably second in the world only to the western
Taipan for the sheer killing power of its bite. It has killed two
young people here in just these last few weeks.) Somewhere I have a
photo of my 6'4" father holding this snake up for the camera which, if
I ever find it again, I'll post. It was a very, very big specimen,
and Lesley's scream was fully justified, given that it had popped its
head up about 3 feet in front of her.

But I agree entirely about the kids screaming around the place. My
grandchildren are experts and completely uncontrolled by their parents
in this. They're just having fun, is the response when we hint that
maybe, just maybe, they might be driving the entire neighbourhood nuts
and that they need to moderate their behaviour.

Mique
(cranky auld phart)

[Jill Brickman]

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It was
more like a grunt.
I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very shrill
noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish these girls'
parents did not allow it, either.

No, no screaming here. I have discovered two dead people but they died of
natural causes, not murder. Even when a squirrel appeared inside my house
as I was stepping into the shower one day I didn't scream. I'm sure I made
some kind of startled noise but not screaming.

And I agree: those piercing screams of little girls drive me crazy. My
niece who's three does it and her parents are trying everything to break her
of the habit because it's so annoying.

Jill

[Crowfoot]

Post by Jill Brickman

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It was
more like a grunt.
I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very shrill
noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish these girls'
parents did not allow it, either.

No, no screaming here. I have discovered two dead people but they died of
natural causes, not murder. Even when a squirrel appeared inside my house
as I was stepping into the shower one day I didn't scream. I'm sure I made
some kind of startled noise but not screaming.
And I agree: those piercing screams of little girls drive me crazy. My
niece who's three does it and her parents are trying everything to break her
of the habit because it's so annoying.
Jill

Oh, yes, the twos and threes go through shrieking stage where
they do it just for the sheer joy of making lots and lots of wild,
crazy making noise, although you'd think they'd deafen
themselves with their own noise. You come across them
sometimes in restaurants etc. and there seems no cure for fits
of this barring outgrowing it, except maybe a swat on the
bottom, which would probably tune the thing down to mere
bawling, which is much easier to stand.

Suzy

[Cheryl Perkins]

Post by Crowfoot
Oh, yes, the twos and threes go through shrieking stage where
they do it just for the sheer joy of making lots and lots of wild,
crazy making noise, although you'd think they'd deafen
themselves with their own noise. You come across them
sometimes in restaurants etc. and there seems no cure for fits
of this barring outgrowing it, except maybe a swat on the
bottom, which would probably tune the thing down to mere
bawling, which is much easier to stand.

I was thinking more about girls aged about 10-16 or so who jump up and
down waving their hands in the air and squealing because they've just
gotten a new item that is just, you know, TOOO CUTE!!!!

That drives me crazy. The toddlers, well, they might grow out of it. I
suppose the older girls do too, but it seems to take forever.

[Pogonip]

Post by Cheryl Perkins

Post by Crowfoot
Oh, yes, the twos and threes go through shrieking stage where
they do it just for the sheer joy of making lots and lots of wild,
crazy making noise, although you'd think they'd deafen
themselves with their own noise. You come across them
sometimes in restaurants etc. and there seems no cure for fits
of this barring outgrowing it, except maybe a swat on the
bottom, which would probably tune the thing down to mere
bawling, which is much easier to stand.

I was thinking more about girls aged about 10-16 or so who jump up and
down waving their hands in the air and squealing because they've just
gotten a new item that is just, you know, TOOO CUTE!!!!
That drives me crazy. The toddlers, well, they might grow out of it. I
suppose the older girls do too, but it seems to take forever.

Nobody should have to wait for them to outgrow it.

[ruth]

Post by Pogonip

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.
I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very
shrill noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish
these girls' parents did not allow it, either.
--
Joanne

I've never been a screamer and none of my 6 sisters and brothers
were......even when getting a beating from my father, but that's a
different story. ruth.

[Catherine Fiorello]

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire.

I have screamed three times in my life--almost falling off a mountain
trail after slipping on ice, on my first (and last) ride on a roller
coaster, and on my first (and last) ride on some other horrible ride my
son wanted to try. Embarrassingly, I scream like a girl, so I try to avoid
situations where it is likely to come up. I've never found a dead body,
but based on past situations, I think I'd be likely to exclaim, "Oh,
fuck!" instead of screaming.

[Fran Read]

Post by Catherine Fiorello
I've never found a dead body,
but based on past situations, I think I'd be likely to exclaim, "Oh,
fuck!" instead of screaming.

Now that's more like me. I've been known to sort of squeak or gasp when
generally startled and certainly to swear. I'm fairly sure that my reaction
to an unexpected dead body would depend on how well I knew it when it was
breathing.
I have heard the "keening" noise that Joanne referred to only once in real
life, and in very tragic circumstances. In the same situation I think it's
quite believable that I'd do the same thing, and have absolutely no control
over it.
Fran

[Lauradog]

Post by Fran Read

Post by Catherine Fiorello
I've never found a dead body,
but based on past situations, I think I'd be likely to exclaim, "Oh,
fuck!" instead of screaming.

Now that's more like me. I've been known to sort of squeak or gasp when
generally startled and certainly to swear. I'm fairly sure that my reaction
to an unexpected dead body would depend on how well I knew it when it was
breathing.
I have heard the "keening" noise that Joanne referred to only once in real
life, and in very tragic circumstances. In the same situation I think it's
quite believable that I'd do the same thing, and have absolutely no control
over it.
Fran

I have done the keening thing once, and had no control at all. It too,
was in connection with a beloved cat, found dead. It was a combination
of grief and anger. At the time I remember thinking that I'd lost my mind.
Sue D.

[Crowfoot]

Post by Catherine Fiorello

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire.

I have screamed three times in my life--almost falling off a mountain
trail after slipping on ice, on my first (and last) ride on a roller
coaster, and on my first (and last) ride on some other horrible ride my
son wanted to try. Embarrassingly, I scream like a girl, so I try to avoid
situations where it is likely to come up. I've never found a dead body,
but based on past situations, I think I'd be likely to exclaim, "Oh,
fuck!" instead of screaming.

Right there with you on that.

Suzy

[Pogonip]

Post by Pogonip

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.

OK, I should not reply to my own post, but I just remembered something.
Years ago - on the order of nearly 50, in fact, I came home from work
to be told that the neighbor had run over my cat. This was a very
special cat, as I know RAMmers will understand. He came to me because
the women who had bought him (he was a Siamese) couldn't handle him, and
he and I bonded after a few skirmishes. I made a noise. A loud noise.
I was told by my husband and landlords that they had never really
known what "keening" was until that day. That's what I did. I had no
control of it at all, and I've never done it again.

[Joan in GB-W]

Post by Pogonip
OK, I should not reply to my own post, but I just remembered something.
Years ago - on the order of nearly 50, in fact, I came home from work to
be told that the neighbor had run over my cat. This was a very special
cat, as I know RAMmers will understand. He came to me because the women
who had bought him (he was a Siamese) couldn't handle him, and he and I
bonded after a few skirmishes. I made a noise. A loud noise. I was told
by my husband and landlords that they had never really known what
"keening" was until that day. That's what I did. I had no control of it
at all, and I've never done it again.
--
Joanne

I like the choice of the word keening on St. Patricks' Day. I guess the
word can be used by everyone . . . but I generally associate the word
keening with the Irish.

Joan

[Pogonip]

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Pogonip
OK, I should not reply to my own post, but I just remembered
something. Years ago - on the order of nearly 50, in fact, I came home
from work to be told that the neighbor had run over my cat. This was
a very special cat, as I know RAMmers will understand. He came to me
because the women who had bought him (he was a Siamese) couldn't
handle him, and he and I bonded after a few skirmishes. I made a
noise. A loud noise. I was told by my husband and landlords that they
had never really known what "keening" was until that day. That's what
I did. I had no control of it at all, and I've never done it again.
--
Joanne

I like the choice of the word keening on St. Patricks' Day. I guess the
word can be used by everyone . . . but I generally associate the word
keening with the Irish.
Joan

It reminds me of the Highland Scots women whose husbands were always
coming home in bits and pieces. Our resident Scots can correct me if
I've got that wrong - either the term, or the condition of returning
Highland warriors.

I guess the Irish men did much the same. We Celts are often foolhardy.

[Larisa]

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.

I screamed exactly once in my life. I was at work conducting an
experiment involving a lot of complex and dangerous machinery (with
very inadequate safeguards), and got my finger jammed in the works. I
emitted a 100-decibel scream in the third octave above middle C, which
attracted the attention of a coworker who shut off the machine in time
to prevent any bodily damage from occurring. But that was the only
time.

LM

[Crowfoot]

Post by Larisa

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.

I screamed exactly once in my life. I was at work conducting an
experiment involving a lot of complex and dangerous machinery (with
very inadequate safeguards), and got my finger jammed in the works. I
emitted a 100-decibel scream in the third octave above middle C, which
attracted the attention of a coworker who shut off the machine in time
to prevent any bodily damage from occurring. But that was the only
time.
LM

And it was the *right* time.

Suzy

[Larisa]

Post by Crowfoot

Post by Larisa

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.

I screamed exactly once in my life. I was at work conducting an
experiment involving a lot of complex and dangerous machinery (with
very inadequate safeguards), and got my finger jammed in the works. I
emitted a 100-decibel scream in the third octave above middle C, which
attracted the attention of a coworker who shut off the machine in time
to prevent any bodily damage from occurring. But that was the only
time.
LM

And it was the *right* time.
Suzy

I think so too. Piano playing is hard enough with 10 fingers.

LM

[Mike Burke]

Post by Larisa

Post by Crowfoot

Post by Larisa

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.

I screamed exactly once in my life. I was at work conducting an
experiment involving a lot of complex and dangerous machinery (with
very inadequate safeguards), and got my finger jammed in the works. I
emitted a 100-decibel scream in the third octave above middle C, which
attracted the attention of a coworker who shut off the machine in time
to prevent any bodily damage from occurring. But that was the only
time.
LM

And it was the *right* time.
Suzy

I think so too. Piano playing is hard enough with 10 fingers.

Hah! You're way too modest, Missy. :-)

Mique

[Mary]

Post by Pogonip

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.

I'm unable to scream. And wouldn't be inclined to anyway.

Post by Pogonip
I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very
shrill noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish
these girls' parents did not allow it, either.

I'm with you. It's one of the worst noises there is. I cannot for the
life of me imagine being the house when the kids scream, but I'd imagine
that it happens.

Mary

[David Johnston]

Post by Mary

Post by Pogonip

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It
was more like a grunt.

I'm unable to scream. And wouldn't be inclined to anyway.

Post by Pogonip
I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very
shrill noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish
these girls' parents did not allow it, either.

I'm with you. It's one of the worst noises there is. I cannot for the
life of me imagine being the house when the kids scream, but I'd imagine
that it happens.

My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

[Mary]

Post by David Johnston
My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

From a behavioral standpoint, that may be a valid theory, but lots of
us just can't scream. I can't. My voice is low-pitched and screams
just don't happen.

Mary

[Pogonip]

Post by David Johnston
My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

My parents would never have won the Parents of the Year award, but I can
imagine what would have happened had I screamed like that. First time,
I would probably be taken away and told to sit with my hands folded in
my lap until I regained control of myself. The second time, I would
probably have been put in the coal room of the basement and told to
scream my head off - and not to stop. At least until no more sound came
out. Crying invariably got me "I'll give you something to cry about."

When I was around 4, I think it was, I announced that I was running away
from home. My mother said, "Fine. You have to take all your things
with you." She then insisted that I pack everything of mine. I got
tired and lost interest long before the packing was completed, not to
mention having no way to carry everything with me.

[Mary]

Post by Pogonip

Post by David Johnston
My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

My parents would never have won the Parents of the Year award, but I can
imagine what would have happened had I screamed like that. First time,
I would probably be taken away and told to sit with my hands folded in
my lap until I regained control of myself. The second time, I would
probably have been put in the coal room of the basement and told to
scream my head off - and not to stop. At least until no more sound came
out. Crying invariably got me "I'll give you something to cry about."
When I was around 4, I think it was, I announced that I was running away
from home. My mother said, "Fine. You have to take all your things
with you." She then insisted that I pack everything of mine. I got
tired and lost interest long before the packing was completed, not to
mention having no way to carry everything with me.

Wow. Your mom must be related to mine.

Mary

[Pogonip]

Post by Mary

Post by Pogonip
My parents would never have won the Parents of the Year award, but I
can imagine what would have happened had I screamed like that. First
time, I would probably be taken away and told to sit with my hands
folded in my lap until I regained control of myself. The second time,
I would probably have been put in the coal room of the basement and
told to scream my head off - and not to stop. At least until no more
sound came out. Crying invariably got me "I'll give you something to
cry about."
When I was around 4, I think it was, I announced that I was running
away from home. My mother said, "Fine. You have to take all your
things with you." She then insisted that I pack everything of mine.
I got tired and lost interest long before the packing was completed,
not to mention having no way to carry everything with me.

Wow. Your mom must be related to mine.
Mary

Cousin Mary???

[Mary]

Post by Pogonip

Post by Mary

Post by Pogonip
My parents would never have won the Parents of the Year award, but I
can imagine what would have happened had I screamed like that. First
time, I would probably be taken away and told to sit with my hands
folded in my lap until I regained control of myself. The second
time, I would probably have been put in the coal room of the basement
and told to scream my head off - and not to stop. At least until no
more sound came out. Crying invariably got me "I'll give you
something to cry about."
When I was around 4, I think it was, I announced that I was running
away from home. My mother said, "Fine. You have to take all your
things with you." She then insisted that I pack everything of
mine. I got tired and lost interest long before the packing was
completed, not to mention having no way to carry everything with me.

Wow. Your mom must be related to mine.
Mary

Cousin Mary???

Sounds good, Cousin Joanne.

Mary

[Crowfoot]

Post by Pogonip

Post by David Johnston
My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

My parents would never have won the Parents of the Year award, but I can
imagine what would have happened had I screamed like that. First time,
I would probably be taken away and told to sit with my hands folded in
my lap until I regained control of myself. The second time, I would
probably have been put in the coal room of the basement and told to
scream my head off - and not to stop. At least until no more sound came
out. Crying invariably got me "I'll give you something to cry about."
When I was around 4, I think it was, I announced that I was running away
from home. My mother said, "Fine. You have to take all your things
with you." She then insisted that I pack everything of mine. I got
tired and lost interest long before the packing was completed, not to
mention having no way to carry everything with me.

Your mother was *brilliant*.

Suzy

[Pogonip]

Post by Crowfoot

Post by Pogonip

Post by David Johnston
My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

My parents would never have won the Parents of the Year award, but I can
imagine what would have happened had I screamed like that. First time,
I would probably be taken away and told to sit with my hands folded in
my lap until I regained control of myself. The second time, I would
probably have been put in the coal room of the basement and told to
scream my head off - and not to stop. At least until no more sound came
out. Crying invariably got me "I'll give you something to cry about."
When I was around 4, I think it was, I announced that I was running away
from home. My mother said, "Fine. You have to take all your things
with you." She then insisted that I pack everything of mine. I got
tired and lost interest long before the packing was completed, not to
mention having no way to carry everything with me.

Your mother was *brilliant*.
Suzy

She had her moments. There were some other problems.

[Fire Tiger]

Post by David Johnston
My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

Then how do you explain a woman screaming and then fainting?

Scott

[David Johnston]

On 18 Mar 2007 19:54:27 -0700, "Fire Tiger"

Post by Fire Tiger

Post by David Johnston
My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

Then how do you explain a woman screaming and then fainting?

Dunno. Haven't seen any examples of that except from characters with
very tight corsets or characters who are actually faking it. Oh, and
guys in H.P. Lovecraft stories because he was too lazy to actually
plot out an ending. For H.P. it was the equivalent of the character
stopping to call out: Live from New York, It's Saturday Night!

[Lynn Allen]

Post by Fire Tiger

Post by David Johnston
My pet theory about whether women scream in distress is that it is
based on whether as little girls when they screamed their mother
responded by comforting them and trying to make it better or asking
them to stop giving them a headache.

Then how do you explain a woman screaming and then fainting?
Scott

Fainting happens with a sudden drop in blood pressure, which can be
brought on by physical or emotional shock.

Just saw a video clip on America's Funniest Home Videos...A little boy
comes into a room and is shocked by a dozen children & adults yelling
"SURPRISE" for his birthday. He takes a half a step back, and then
keels straight over. You can tell he's not faking it because he
doesn't put his hands out or try to stop the fall onto his face.

Clearly he's fainted because of emotional shock. There's no reason the
sudden sight of a dead body couldn't prompt someone, male or female, to
do the same thing. Some people are more susceptible to the
blood-pressure-drop reaction than others.

As for the screaming, I think that is a matter of training. Myself, I
kind of yip or yelp when shocked. A full-throated scream just never
happens. I scream in anger.

Screaming females, just like helpless damsels, are mostly a construct
of the movie industry, I think. When a woman in a movie screams and
shrinks back while her Hero tries to rescue her from bad guys or
monsters, I always yell "get in there and HELP him, you useless twit!!"

[Crowfoot]

Post by Lynn Allen
As for the screaming, I think that is a matter of training. Myself, I
kind of yip or yelp when shocked. A full-throated scream just never
happens. I scream in anger.
Screaming females, just like helpless damsels, are mostly a construct
of the movie industry, I think. When a woman in a movie screams and
shrinks back while her Hero tries to rescue her from bad guys or
monsters, I always yell "get in there and HELP him, you useless twit!!"

Yep; I can't be the only one whose first response to shock is a
glottal shut-down, which means the breathing stops for a few
seconds. You can't scream with no breath in you. Some folks
must then take a lungful and holler, but not nearly with the
frequency of women shrieking on TV and in movies and
stories.

Suzy

[Spuddie]

On 18 Mar 2007 19:54:27 -0700 having failed the Rorschach test, "Fire

Post by Fire Tiger
Then how do you explain a woman screaming and then fainting?
Scott

She screamed so long there was a lack of oxygen to the brain? <g>

Cheryl
~~~If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a
one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind.~~~
(Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.)

[G***@scvnet.com]

Post by Pogonip
I would be interested in hearing from women on RAM about whether or not
they *ever* scream. Screaming is not part of my repertoire. Now, I did
make a strange noise last week when I grabbed the oven rack with my bare
fingers. The oven was 400º at the time. But it was not a scream. It was
more like a grunt.
I hear female children in the park screaming - at least it's a very shrill
noise. I would not have been allowed to do that, and I wish these girls'
parents did not allow it, either.
--
Joanne

I don't scream, and I don't remember screaming when I was a child. I have
two girls, and I never allowed them to scream, not that they were the
screaming type to start with. I have noticed that screaming seems to be
popular with the junior high crowd, especially as an audience, which I find
particularly annoying.

Marie

["kat >^.^]

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

Not that I have had the experience, but I guess being startled would be a
factor. Or some kind of major phobia, or theatrics (whether on purpose or
not, some folks have to make a fuss about everything, so this would give
them a good excuse).
I don't think I would, unless it was someone I knew, then it would be the
shock of seeing, say, a loved one in such a way.
My personal tendency is to fall apart AFTER a crisis.
kat >^.^<
in Rhinelander

[Lois]

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

Well I'm almost 70 and haven't screamed yet. Of course I've never
discovered a dead body either.
Lois Remove OH to reply.

[Barbara Wolfe]

Post by Lois

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

Well I'm almost 70 and haven't screamed yet. Of course I've never
discovered a dead body either.
Lois Remove OH to reply.

I'm 60 and I must confess to screaming in high school when I saw
a friend fall down an entire flight of cast iron stairs because she fainted
at the top. I can't remember if I've screamed again. (I'm assuming
you meant wordless screaming and not yelling at the top of one's lungs
in panic or fear; I've also done that.)

Barbara


"Whenever I dwell for any length of time on my own shortcomings,
they gradually begin to seem mild, harmless, rather engaging
little things, not at all like the staring defects in other people's
characters." - Margaret Halsey

[Bud]

Screaming? I was thinking when did it become popular in movies? Women used
to swoon, not scream. Maybe, just maybe, in "Back to the Future", where M. Fox
screams when he is about to run into a barn after going back to 1954(?), in
that DeLorean(sp) car, he lets go a long scream. It was funny then but now
it seems to be the norm and is certainly stupid to hear grown men do the same
in supposedly funny movies. Anyone agree? Hmmmmm?

[David Johnston]

Post by Bud
Screaming? I was thinking when did it become popular in movies?

Hitchcock movies.

[Dave in Toronto]

Post by David Johnston

Post by Bud
Screaming? I was thinking when did it become popular in movies?

Hitchcock movies.

I actually can't think of a Hitchcock movie where a woman screamed -
In Psycho there are lots of simulated screams on the music track but I
don't recall either Janet Leigh or Vera Miles screaming.

Wasn't Fay Wray known as one of the best screamers in the business? -
probably due to her work in King Kong.

Dave in Toronto

[Lynn Allen]

On 2007-03-23 20:30:24 -0700, "Dave in Toronto"

Post by Dave in Toronto
I actually can't think of a Hitchcock movie where a woman screamed -
In Psycho there are lots of simulated screams on the music track but I
don't recall either Janet Leigh or Vera Miles screaming.

The Birds. Tippi Hedron...champion screamer. Even when she KNEW she
shouldn't go up those stairs and open that door.

Idiot.

[Francis A. Miniter]

Post by Lynn Allen
On 2007-03-23 20:30:24 -0700, "Dave in Toronto"

Post by Dave in Toronto
I actually can't think of a Hitchcock movie where a woman screamed -
In Psycho there are lots of simulated screams on the music track but I
don't recall either Janet Leigh or Vera Miles screaming.

The Birds. Tippi Hedron...champion screamer. Even when she KNEW she
shouldn't go up those stairs and open that door.
Idiot.

And then instead of leaving the room, she pushed back against the door, closing
it!! How do you make that mistake?


Francis A. Miniter

[Joan in GB-W]

Post by Francis A. Miniter

Post by Lynn Allen
On 2007-03-23 20:30:24 -0700, "Dave in Toronto"

Post by Dave in Toronto
I actually can't think of a Hitchcock movie where a woman screamed -
In Psycho there are lots of simulated screams on the music track but I
don't recall either Janet Leigh or Vera Miles screaming.

The Birds. Tippi Hedron...champion screamer. Even when she KNEW she
shouldn't go up those stairs and open that door.
Idiot.

And then instead of leaving the room, she pushed back against the door,
closing it!! How do you make that mistake?
Francis A. Miniter

You're following the script.

Joan

[Bud]

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Francis A. Miniter
And then instead of leaving the room, she pushed back against the door,
closing it!! How do you make that mistake?
Francis A. Miniter

You're following the script.
Joan

It was a lousy movie. The book was a lot better and actually gave you some
sense of suspence. I did read the book before the movie came out and was
quite disgusted with it.

[Dave in Toronto]

Post by Bud

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Francis A. Miniter
And then instead of leaving the room, she pushed back against the door,
closing it!! How do you make that mistake?
Francis A. Miniter

You're following the script.
Joan

It was a lousy movie. The book was a lot better and actually gave you some
sense of suspence. I did read the book before the movie came out and was
quite disgusted with it.

I didn't care for the movie too much either. Daphne duMaurier based
her story on a news item she'd read about birds making a mass attack
on someone working in the fields of his farm. Apparently birds can
get a disease something like rabies and start acting atypically.

Dave in Toronto

[Crowfoot]

Post by Dave in Toronto

Post by Bud

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Francis A. Miniter
And then instead of leaving the room, she pushed back against the door,
closing it!! How do you make that mistake?
Francis A. Miniter

You're following the script.
Joan

It was a lousy movie. The book was a lot better and actually gave you some
sense of suspence. I did read the book before the movie came out and was
quite disgusted with it.

I didn't care for the movie too much either. Daphne duMaurier based
her story on a news item she'd read about birds making a mass attack
on someone working in the fields of his farm. Apparently birds can
get a disease something like rabies and start acting atypically.
Dave in Toronto

Yes, but things may be changing . . . stories are appearing about
young elephants going on killing sprees (apparently they're killing
rhinos, of all things) in Africa. The theory is that since the adults
who normally socialize the young have been slaughtered by poachers,
these young bulls are angry, aimlessly destructive juvenile
delinquents. It doesn't take rabies to make it happen, just the
actions of the world's greatest predatory monster, the man with a
gun and no conscience (or, thanks to lack of access to good birth
control, lots of kids to feed, and no work).

Suzy

[Stanley Moore]

Post by Bud

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Francis A. Miniter
And then instead of leaving the room, she pushed back against the door,
closing it!! How do you make that mistake?
Francis A. Miniter

You're following the script.
Joan

It was a lousy movie. The book was a lot better and actually gave you some
sense of suspence. I did read the book before the movie came out and was
quite disgusted with it.

In defense of The Birds I always thought Rod Taylor was a very sexy man and
I didn't pay much attention to the girl. <G> Take care

[Joan in GB-W]

Post by Stanley Moore

Post by Bud

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Francis A. Miniter
And then instead of leaving the room, she pushed back against the door,
closing it!! How do you make that mistake?
Francis A. Miniter

You're following the script.
Joan

It was a lousy movie. The book was a lot better and actually gave you some
sense of suspence. I did read the book before the movie came out and was
quite disgusted with it.

In defense of The Birds I always thought Rod Taylor was a very sexy man
and I didn't pay much attention to the girl. <G> Take care
--
Stanley L. Moore

Well, Stanley, we agree.

Joan

[Bud]

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Stanley Moore
In defense of The Birds I always thought Rod Taylor was a very sexy man
and I didn't pay much attention to the girl. <G> Take care
--
Stanley L. Moore

Well, Stanley, we agree.
Joan

The woman, Tippy Hendron(sp) didn't do it for me. She was emoting about as
much as one of the dead birds.

[Wesley Struebing]

Post by Bud

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Francis A. Miniter
And then instead of leaving the room, she pushed back against the door,
closing it!! How do you make that mistake?
Francis A. Miniter

You're following the script.
Joan

It was a lousy movie. The book was a lot better and actually gave you some
sense of suspence. I did read the book before the movie came out and was
quite disgusted with it.

Quite disgusted with the movie, right?

(agreeing that the book was far better...)

--

Wes Struebing

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.

[Joan in GB-W]

Post by Dave in Toronto
I actually can't think of a Hitchcock movie where a woman screamed -
In Psycho there are lots of simulated screams on the music track but I
don't recall either Janet Leigh or Vera Miles screaming.
Wasn't Fay Wray known as one of the best screamers in the business? -
probably due to her work in King Kong.
Dave in Toronto

I don't know if women scream at the sight of a dead body, but you would have
to go some to beat the screaming of that little girl in the movie, "Little
Miss Sunshine." And hers were screams of joy.

Joan

[e***@webtv.net]

In "Law and Order" the hotel maids always do. And then they moan,
"Madre de Dios."

Dave in Toronto" <***@sympatico.ca> said:

<<I actually can't think of a Hitchcock movie where a woman screamed -
In Psycho there are lots of simulated screams on the music track but I
don't recall either Janet Leigh or Vera Miles screaming.>>

In "Frenzy," for one, a woman screams on finding a murder victim. I
think there must be a few early Hitchcock examples, but I can't think of
any right now.

Ellen 2

[Dave in Toronto]

Post by Bud
Screaming? I was thinking when did it become popular in movies? Women used
to swoon, not scream. Maybe, just maybe, in "Back to the Future", where M. Fox
screams when he is about to run into a barn after going back to 1954(?), in
that DeLorean(sp) car, he lets go a long scream. It was funny then but now
it seems to be the norm and is certainly stupid to hear grown men do the same
in supposedly funny movies. Anyone agree? Hmmmmm?

I read an article once how to behave in violent situations - it
advises men to scream if they don't want or have the ability to fight
back - Not very macho but apparently it sometimes throws the most
determined attacker off kilter - Personally I just burst into tears.

Dave in Toronto

[Joan in GB-W]

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I don't know, Scott. I have never found a murdered body. I did, however,
find my mother dead in bed many years ago, but it was a normal death due to
old age.

To find a murdered body, especially a bloody body, could produce screams . .
. maybe. I have never screamed in my life. And so I don't know what I
would do.

If any of you have ever been at a teen concert (and I haven't) it sounds
like they are screaming themselves to death.

Joan

[Dave in Toronto]

Post by Joan in GB-W
If any of you have ever been at a teen concert (and I haven't) it sounds
like they are screaming themselves to death.
Joan

Teen-age girls of course are notorious screamers. It's meant as an
attention grabber - If a male happens to be nearby their conversation
automatically rise a couple of octaves and becomes punctuated by
unearthy shrieks while they're pretending not to notice.

Vincent Price tells a story of how when MURDER IN THE WAX MUSEUM was
playing in 3D he would slip into Los Angeles cinemas and seat himself
behind the most vulnerable looking bunch of teenagers - after a
particularly gruesome scene he would tap one of them on the shoulder
lean forward and say in that distinctive voice of his - "Did you enjoy
that?".

Dave in Toronto

[Crowfoot]

Post by Joan in GB-W

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I don't know, Scott. I have never found a murdered body. I did, however,
find my mother dead in bed many years ago, but it was a normal death due to
old age.
To find a murdered body, especially a bloody body, could produce screams . .
. maybe. I have never screamed in my life. And so I don't know what I
would do.

Me neither, but I know what happens when I'm shocked hard:
I tend to yell, not scream, and what I yell is exactly what airline
pilots yell as their planes go down (yes, they have it recorded
on the black boxes), which is "SHIT!"

IMO, the "screaming woman" thing is a cultural hangover from
times when ladies were supposed to be delicate flowers in
desperate need (in conditions of stress of any kind) of male
protection. The scream was often coupled with a faint or some
other demonstration of complete incompetence, at least among
the upper crust where such shenannigans were encouraged (this
being one of the ways that "ladies" could demonstrate that they
weren't "common"). The corollary was that men, real men, must
keep that stiff upper lip thing and *never* scream unless it was
a scream of manly rage, closely followed by violence.

The stage and then the movies picked up the nonsense of the
shrieking female for the purposes of charging up an audience's
response to melodrama; there's a movie with John Travolta, I
believe, about a sound tech who's assignment is to record the
"best" possible screams -- all female, of course -- for a suspense
movie about a killer, which uses this need of Hollywood for
the loudest, shrillest female screams available as part of its plot.
There has also been input from immigrant communities which
have much more public ideas of mourning as a required
demonstration of feeling than mainstream America seems to.
I think sometimes people of both sexes do scream out in
anguish at discovering the death of someone they care for, but
for that to happen you have to know the identity of the dead
person, and the cry is one of grief, not fear.

Generally speaking, though, I think most people's response to
finding a dead person is to recoil with a grunt or exclamation
of disgust and alarm. But maybe I'm just led too sheltered a
life . . .

Suzy

[Mike Burke]

On 16 Mar 2007 18:08:07 -0700, "Fire Tiger"

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?

'Er Indoors screams and panics whenever she sees a mouse (think
Dagwood's Blondie), so I wouldn't be surprised if she screamed if she
unexpectedly came upon a dead body. I probably would too if it was
sudden and gruesome enough.

Mique

[Lauradog]

Post by Mike Burke
On 16 Mar 2007 18:08:07 -0700, "Fire Tiger"

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?

'Er Indoors screams and panics whenever she sees a mouse (think
Dagwood's Blondie), so I wouldn't be surprised if she screamed if she
unexpectedly came upon a dead body. I probably would too if it was
sudden and gruesome enough.
Mique

Come to think of it I have a friend who screams whenever any insect
comes within a few feet of her. I guess some women are screamers and
others are not. Maybe it's genetic?
Sue D.

[Annie C]

"Lauradog" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
| > On 16 Mar 2007 18:08:07 -0700, "Fire Tiger"
| > <***@gmail.com> wrote:
| >
| >> Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
| >> cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
| >> body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
| >> scene but not screaming. |

Come to think of it I have a friend who screams whenever any insect
| comes within a few feet of her. I guess some women are screamers and
| others are not. Maybe it's genetic?
| Sue D.

I'm generally not a screamer . :::::Except for the time when I was stepping
into the shower at my mom's house in Florida and didn't notice the two
Palmetto bugs ( roaches, the size of volkswagens!) in there. Don't think I
screamed very loud, more of a yelp, but I did move very quickly. Ended up
buying her a replacement shower curtain and clips and shower rod. Which I
broke. Be grateful it wasn't glass enclosed. :o):::: Roaches, big snakes in
the garden hiding in the low shrubbery, unexpected large spiders, brrrr..
all those will make me yelp a little. Have never found a dead human body,
just a poor 'possum that met its end in our deep window-well. No scream, no
noise, just felt sad.

As to kids screaming at play - both boys and girls do it. Just walk by any
elementary school at recess. We did. Outdoors and on the playground or in
the park. Those sounds don't bother me, especially if it sounds like they
are having great fun. Brings back good memories. :) Oh, and I did sorta
scream (okay I did ) with my friend at the Rolling Stones concerts I went to
last year. (No, it was just the excitement of the moment.. and it felt
really good!) Okay. I'm a sometime screamer. But more a yelper.

Annie

[Anne Sullivan]

Post by Annie C
| > On 16 Mar 2007 18:08:07 -0700, "Fire Tiger"
| >
| >> Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
| >> cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
| >> body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
| >> scene but not screaming. |
Come to think of it I have a friend who screams whenever any insect
| comes within a few feet of her. I guess some women are screamers and
| others are not. Maybe it's genetic?
| Sue D.
I'm generally not a screamer . :::::Except for the time when I was stepping
into the shower at my mom's house in Florida and didn't notice the two
Palmetto bugs ( roaches, the size of volkswagens!) in there. Don't think I
screamed very loud, more of a yelp, but I did move very quickly. Ended up
buying her a replacement shower curtain and clips and shower rod. Which I
broke. Be grateful it wasn't glass enclosed. :o):::: Roaches, big snakes in
the garden hiding in the low shrubbery, unexpected large spiders, brrrr..
all those will make me yelp a little. Have never found a dead human body,
just a poor 'possum that met its end in our deep window-well. No scream, no
noise, just felt sad.
As to kids screaming at play - both boys and girls do it. Just walk by any
elementary school at recess. We did. Outdoors and on the playground or in
the park. Those sounds don't bother me, especially if it sounds like they
are having great fun. Brings back good memories. :) Oh, and I did sorta
scream (okay I did ) with my friend at the Rolling Stones concerts I went to
last year. (No, it was just the excitement of the moment.. and it felt
really good!) Okay. I'm a sometime screamer. But more a yelper.
Annie

Like Annie, I'm more apt to yelp when startled. Never found a dead body, so
I can't say for sure. The only time I ever screamed was on purpose. I was watching
some people's full size poodle while they were on vacation (must have been for the
money cause I'm not much of a dog person, but he was a really great dog) and a
german shepherd came growling up to us (no leash on the shepherd and no visible
owner)
and I couldn't hang on to the poodle. I ended up screaming on purpose "Help" and
some
people came and we got the dogs apart. Didn't know I could scream that loudly, but
it was nice to know I could do it if I ever need to. Not quite the same type of
scream
as those vapid women in the movies though!

Anne in Arizona

[Don Harstad]

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I've never heard one scream near or around a dead body. Once we were
looking for a missing man in the woods, and one of the women officers pulled
aside some brush, and said, "Hey, guys, I found him," in a normal tone of
voice.

Non-cop women I know who have discovered a dead relative, tend to say things
like, "Oh, no...." but not particularly loudly. These same people, however,
may well scream the rafters down if they see an un-expected furry creature
dart out from beneath something.

Actors, of course, are paid to dramatize. I think some writers see the
actors, and incorporate those dramatizations into their work.

Don H.

[David Johnston]

On 16 Mar 2007 18:08:07 -0700, "Fire Tiger"

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?

Some would. I think the women who scream when startled are a rather
high-strung minority, but there are women out there who would scream
at the sight of an old friend even if she didn't have a knife in her
heart.

[Cheryl Perkins]

Post by David Johnston
Some would. I think the women who scream when startled are a rather
high-strung minority, but there are women out there who would scream
at the sight of an old friend even if she didn't have a knife in her
heart.

Yes, I think it depends on the individual woman. I admit I have never come
across a dead body unexpectedly, so of course I have never screamed in
response. But I'm not much of a screamer anyway. When I'm really startled,
I might let out a little yelp, but that's about it, and I don't always do
that. I tend to stay quiet, and if I'm going to get extremely and
obviously upset, I try to wait until I'm in a private place.

I suspect that early training comes into it, too - although women can be
more or less high-strung or phlegmatic, they can also be encouraged to
display certain types of behaviour by the socialization they get in early
childhood.

I think that any person who participated in or supports the social trends
which has resulted in pre-pubescent and teenaged girls having no other way
to express extreme joy or shock than to jump up and down and scream in
tones I can only wish were supersonic should be shut up in a small room
with a large number of hysterical 12-year-old girls.

As a final note - adult women do scream. Believe me, when you have
not one but two adult female co-workers who are absolutely phobic about
mice, and one of them runs over one a mouse with her desk chair, everyone
for some distance around knows *something* has happened!

To this day, someone (sometimes me) has to inspect the mousetraps and area
around the chairs and desk for mice first thing in the morning.

[Janet Puistonen]

Post by Mike Burke
On 16 Mar 2007 18:08:07 -0700, "Fire Tiger"

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but
I cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries
or do women actually do this?

Some would. I think the women who scream when startled are a rather
high-strung minority, but there are women out there who would scream
at the sight of an old friend even if she didn't have a knife in her
heart.

I'm not terribly high strung, but I do tend to shriek--once, but loudly
<G>--when startled. The males of the family are always making fun of me for
it. (They also claim that I sneeze too loudly.) I have to be really startled
to shriek, though--a state of fear doesn't prompt it--and I NEVER do that
sustained screaming thing that they always have women doing in the movies.

The piercing shrieks of some little girls drive me mad, too.

[ruth]

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

I think it would depend on the woman........I've seen lots of dead
bodies and maimed bodies over the years (I'm an RN) and can honestly
say I've never screamed or thrown up.........maybe got a little queasy
over some. IRL I've never known folks to scream as much as they do on
tv and movies......it must be a drama thing. The people I know of who
have done the screaming were ones who had known or loved the person
who was dead. That was an emotional thing. ruth

[Spuddie]

On 16 Mar 2007 18:08:07 -0700 having failed the Rorschach test, "Fire

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body.

Probably more surprise than anything. I've come across a few when in
nurse mode so would automatically just check for a pulse and either
start CPR or leave quietly to start making phone calls, whichever the
situation calls for. But I've never come across a dead body, say, on
my couch or in the foyer of my apartment building, so have no idea how
I'd react in that situation. I'm not one to squeal and yell and am
generally calm under pressure, but I can't say I'd be eager to test
myself in this way. LOL

Cheryl

~~~Why doesn't Tarzan have a beard?~~~

[Barbara]

On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:08:07 UTC, "Fire Tiger"

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body.

It's the author "take the easy way out" routine. Creates tension,
makes a point and slaps you upside the head with how very serious the
situation really is.

Those are the same writers who have the female cop/detective/PI
stubbing their toe, tumbling, and flinging their gun sideways at the
most critical moment. Chasing or fleeing doesn't matter.

Women scream and women fall down, right? :)

[Mary]

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?
Scott

Which woman?

Mary

[Fire Tiger]

Post by Mary

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?

Which woman?

The third one on the right.

Scott

[Mary]

Post by Fire Tiger

Post by Mary

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?

Which woman?

The third one on the right.
Scott

Then, no. :-)

My point was that women aren't all the same. If the woman's in a horror
movie, she ALWAYS screams. I couldn't scream if I had to.

Mary

[Fire Tiger]

Post by Mary
My point was that women aren't all the same.

I understand all women are not the same. I guess I should have put a
qualifier in there. I was asking if some women do. And if some do,
why. Almost all do in mysteries. When you see them on TV, it is just
expected. The housekeeper arrives for work, finds the body, and
shatters all the windows in the house with her scream.

Post by Mary
If the woman's in a horror movie, she ALWAYS screams.

And if she is the first one to find a body in a murder mystery, she
does as well.

Post by Mary
I couldn't scream if I had to.

I could yell, but not scream. Thus why I asked the question.

Scott

[ruth]

Post by Mary

Post by Fire Tiger

Post by Mary

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?

Which woman?

The third one on the right.
Scott

Then, no. :-)
My point was that women aren't all the same. If the woman's in a horror
movie, she ALWAYS screams. I couldn't scream if I had to.
Mary- Hide quoted text -
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the woman in a horror movie has to scream to make sure she has fully
attracted the attention of the monster, psychopath, bad guy, etc.
I've noticed in a lot of those movies if the woman would just keep her
mouth shut the killer would never find her.
She also has to scream loudly in order to get her friends to all come
to where the monster is so that he can kill them, too. ruth

[Crowfoot]

Post by ruth

Post by Mary

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Post by Mary

Post by Fire Tiger
Maybe I just cannot get it through this thick male head of mine, but I
cannot understand why a woman would scream at the sight of a dead
body. I could see possibly them throwing up at a gruesome murder
scene but not screaming. Why are they screaming? Why would they
scream? I'm not talking about screaming to raise an alarm or a cry
for help but out of supposed terror. In mysteries (written, TV, and
movies), women are always screaming when they find a dead body. Even
screaming and then fainting. Is this just a tradition of mysteries or
do women actually do this?

Which woman?

The third one on the right.
Scott

Then, no. :-)
My point was that women aren't all the same. If the woman's in a horror
movie, she ALWAYS screams. I couldn't scream if I had to.
Mary- Hide quoted text -
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the woman in a horror movie has to scream to make sure she has fully
attracted the attention of the monster, psychopath, bad guy, etc.
I've noticed in a lot of those movies if the woman would just keep her
mouth shut the killer would never find her.
She also has to scream loudly in order to get her friends to all come
to where the monster is so that he can kill them, too. ruth

The scream as plot-point; exactly.

Suzy